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I just thought it was one photo she said
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weighed down by the heavy picture frame
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she said this crucial piece of family history on to the table
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torn and tattered by over a century of where
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the picture captured a young black woman
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in a solemn straight back homes hi is intense
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as if she knew she'd be staring at G. G. generation
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because she knew she had stories to tell
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and yet another bring a large tub Abrams
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and saying this is going to my family's basement
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first long as I can remember
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I have no idea what's in his hands dug deep
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hold on a bundle of letters his eyes being St
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these are my parents love let's
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I dress with almost perfect
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and mention his mother and father sent letters back
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and forth expressing their love
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and hope for a reunion and
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yet still another family reunion VHS tapes capturing
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a family business a club where people can go
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and have fun capturing the Jordan
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and celebrations far from the burdens of life.
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We capture these moments
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and memories and histories
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I would pass this information down
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to the next generation.
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Well tonight you'll meet some other forms
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and hear some of these sorts good evening
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welcome to our families our communities
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are historians capturing during spirit
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of life.
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This program is presented by the Robert F. Smith
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center for the digitization
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and curation of African Americans
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my name is Julie Williams I direct the centre
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and will serve as your host
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for this.
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Listen this has been a season
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like no other and in the season
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like no other it's even more important
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the past down the stories
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the memories in your family's anger convergence
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whether it's the story of the black owned business that has
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survived from the forties until this day
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what is the story of love
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expressed by the great grands.
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Whether it's the new stories
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being created each and every day
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babies born during one of the most challenging years
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in decades.
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The store is in a community that came together
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they turned out and turn the whole state.
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The new historians.
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Of women shouldering the dreams
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so other women can reach their goals
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and aspirations.
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We celebrate these enjoying stories
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and we celebrate the news story it's
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in the first part of this program
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you meet a woman who brought in a special treasure box
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full of memories that she hopes to share
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with their grandchildren
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you'll also meet misstep or Mason
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who will share the legacy of her late husband
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and take you on a journey
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through his city.
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You also need the Henderson family
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we'll share with you their digitized family home movies
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and the stories that come out of those recordings.
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And you're good to me our family history center team
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as they interview Adrian Sykes
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ambassador here at the national museum of African American
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history and culture you will travel with her
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through her journey and family history.
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In a season marked no other
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it is so important to continue to capture these veterans
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and pass them down to generations to come.
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We hope you enjoy this program
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and maybe it inspires you to continue
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to search your family history
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and or to make this year
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as difficult as it has been
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to be a year of sharing this marines
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and the hopes and dreams of the future
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and to celebrate the enduring
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spirit of life enjoy.
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These roles were you know the thing in our family
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and I thought I had that with her
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and fell when our it showed up
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in now in this box.
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When he showed up in this box.
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It's been very happy I have a very
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happy my name is Lisa Daniels
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and I brought granny's recipes
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my grandmother surely heard
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she passed away in twenty fifteen has messages
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granny happen to have any aprons
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and he said no he said there no aprons
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but yes that recipe box sitting on on account in any kitchen
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and I'm like.
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And he handed this to me
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and how I was.
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Every individual every family
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every community has the story
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at the national museum of African American history
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and culture we want to give individuals
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families and communities
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the opportunity to share their stories
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with current and future generations
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and to the community curation program we strive to do just
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that read the innovative program
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hosted by the center for the digitization integration of African
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American history invites the public to have their personal
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flashlight and audio visual materials
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digitized by our expert staff
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photographs in ten types recipes
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for diplomacy I DO recordings
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and home video these are the things we hold dear
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and taken together our individual stories to find our collective
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history but these items have show flights that are shorter
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than one would think by digitizing community materials
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and sharing the stories behind them
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we can ensure that every day American history is preserved
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.
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To bring the community curation program to life
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the museum collaborates with archiving institutions
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across the country in twenty nineteen
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to museums with the black metropolis research consortium
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and its member institutions
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does community curation in Chicago started
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as a local store some very interesting questions
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at each stop we hold free digitization sessions workshops
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and genealogy and preservation
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and many programs exploring the history.
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In Chicago those interactions let us to stories that were
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at once incredibly universal
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and deeply personal and the center
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for the digitization and curation of African American history
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is great for that communities continue to trust us to preserve
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and share these treasures
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when I heard that talk about how paternity team
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digitize all this stuff
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and keep it in one place
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hours available I can not come here I am
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with with what I remains
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of that part of my history
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and I get to share this with my granddaughter
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and my friends.
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Yeah.
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Yeah hello my name is Deborah Mason
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and we are here today to discuss
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the Baltimore wall of pride that you see behind me
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I was a tennis on this job my husband was the muralist
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his name was on telemedicine
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he was born in Rocky Mount North Carolina came to Baltimore
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at the age of seven and
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still considers himself more of a Baltimore
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and then from North Carolina
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I've lived here all my life except
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for a couple years where I worked
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at Georgetown University
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and I lived in DC until
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I got my first apartment I came back to Baltimore
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when I came back I went to a party
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and there I met my husband we both knew the same person who
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gave this party and so he
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pursued me in a gentlemanly
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like fashion during the course of our our relationship
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in the early days he was unemployed he was an artist
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and he was looking for work
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and the Baltimore program came up
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and so he was intending to apply
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though he was an artist he had painted murals in
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mmhm New York or maybe assisted
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I can't remember quite which
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but he wanted the right answers when he went to the interview
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so on the morning of the interview
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he headed toward the interview
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I went to the library and researched how you do a mural
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and called him up and told what to say
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so we were always partners
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in in his artwork this near the bottom wall of pride actually
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is the second iteration of Baltimore wall of pride
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first was called upon mall wall of respect
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and the artist on bat was able on Martin
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and he was a photographer actually
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but the meal program hi mostly people they knew about new
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in Baltimore my husband was just back from New York
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so they didn't know him that well
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and so he ended up being apprenticed to a lot of artists
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in Baltimore which angered him deeply
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because sometimes he he was the one who had the skills to
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to execute in a better fashion than
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especially if it's augur
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for for example so the first iteration he worked
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as the apprentice and when the bottle will respect the terrier
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rated he was commissioned to do the walk of pride
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himself and I worked as the apprentice on this job
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so but he had done quite a few murals
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in the apprenticeship program
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one of the most popular
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and Baltimoreans know quite well is
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the checker players and the checker players was
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born Franklin Edmundson
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and then the number twenty three bus would ride by there
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and a lot of people would drive by
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and see this mural and also a lot of
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I know one artist in particular to show who said
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because the check of players he became an artist
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these are the bottle of pride now
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we we completed this mail in nineteen ninety one
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yes so you could see the level of the
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deterioration that has gone on over the years
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and fortunately the bottle office promotion of the arts is
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interested in.
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Is interested in re doing the mural
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and so there's an effort underfoot to raise money
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and to pull people together to make this happen there
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at one point they were thirty five murals
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I will tell my husband to dissipate
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and both indoors and out.
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A lot of them still exist most of the outdoor murals
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do not exist one for example.
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What is the children on big wheels which happened early
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in the program and the building caught on fire someone else
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purchased the building and painted over the mural
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and so the meal probably didn't live
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for more than two or three years
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after it was painted but a lot of people in Baltimore
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are familiar with all remember specially older ones of us
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remember this the children on big wheels
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also my husband tried to create a army of
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young people who could paint yeah
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so he did this is a paid in
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summer camp programs that
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the children of participated in
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and he taught them how to to
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paint murals.
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There is a charge and I don't know the name of the church that
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was next door to the post office downtown when he
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ran to the post office is a white church across the street
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and we held summer camp in the basement of the church
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and also in Carol mansion where.
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Between that block of Carroll mansion
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and further up to the church.
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We held summer camp there teaching African culture teaching
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painting and and just allowing the children to express
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themselves artistically
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so my husband became a an integral part of
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the Baltimore community
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the cultural community mehr Kurt Schmoke
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name my husband Neil man
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and a lot of people will agree this is not
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trying to brag on his name or any of that
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but people in Baltimore sort of him at the time
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as one of the most prolific
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artists in Baltimore to execute the meals that we see
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around so his name is still held in high esteem
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as to what he has to offer the community
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that even the meals was important
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while they were being done
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because the then the process was documented
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and the time period that it was being painted
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and even pictures about children run around the playground
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showed how old they were my son was probably four
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which made my daughter too
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and now they're thirty and thirty two
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so all of those things speak to that segment of history
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in Baltimore's history and that
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yes indeed we did contribute to
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the cultural uplift of Baltimore city it was important
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for my husband to take this particular mural
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and you'll see that the names
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of the individuals all in the middle
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because he thought of this
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as a teaching resource to the community that
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I will tell you who would you would go out
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and find out who they are really
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and what why they're important why they're up here on this
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wall and why you should know them
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so a lot of that happen
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because some of the other murals in Baltimore
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also have the names of the people on
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on them and he wanted the community
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to go out and find out who people were
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so a lot of reasons for the documentation
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for our personal history
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but also for the history
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and the top left of the community
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so not only did I document the murals
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and its progress but I also
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I had to do some of the labor
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now if you see me was being painted today
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especially in higher elevations on walls you see people
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in cherry pickers we didn't have that
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we had to build affordable scaffold every day
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and take it down every day
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and the scaffold was housed in the building across the street
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that was been renovated
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as well so this meal was actually one percent
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of a government contract to turn old Douglas high school
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into the living apartment
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buildings that is now there was
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also a community organization a laundromat
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attached to this building
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and so the community organization allowed us to house
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a scaffolding over there
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and so we have to schlep across the street
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and bring it over here set up against the wall
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I let that piece of it when came time to paint he let that
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part of it so a lot of work went into this
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and actually we were here
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it will probably have taken us an entire year to do this mural
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it was fifteen feet tall by a hundred twenty feet wide
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it took us about a year
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but we painted into the fall late fall
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and winter until the pain said okay I'm not gonna move anymore
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there was a bit of a tough situation
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because this neighborhood is
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kinda want to drug centers in Baltimore city
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and so this the alley that you see behind me over here.
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Has that was the traffic area
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for the drug deals and you'll see a small section of fence
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this is kind of fun stuff now
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but it was actually a hole in the fence
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and gate the no gate but just an opening to enter the playground
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from that area a lot of drug deals with happen right up
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against the wall slip into
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the playground transact the business
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and then slip back out and
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also we knew that there was a lot of crime
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and unsanitary conditions happening against the wall at night
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when we were not here and
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so along with building the schedule in the morning we would
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also have to clean and sanitize
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so there was a lot of bleach
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a lot of a lot of sleeping in a lot of just
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housekeeping in order to get the project done.
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When I heard about the national museum of African American
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history and culture doesn't digitizing
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photographs I actually was in my house cleaning up
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it was a Saturday and it came across the radio
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that this was happening at the session started at whatever
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time and it was about fifteen minutes before that tab
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when I heard it I left the bucket
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and a mop in the floor I changed my clothes
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and I immediately went to the event
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because.
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Right because we will my goal was to preserve
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reservoir my husband did
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for my self my children
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people who love those people care about us
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but also that was in that included the community at large
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because my husband was respected
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as one of the best meal was in Baltimore city
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so that story continues continues to need to be told
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not necessarily by me and of course one day not by me
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because I will be here to tell it
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but.
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Important things going on in people's houses that nobody really
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knows about that is important
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for the community know that it's been happening
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around them all the time we hear a lot of
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negativity about the after American community
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particulate this week with the the
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murder of George Floyd and how the communities have
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risen up and I take in some of the blame
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for what I'm calling marauders going around
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and burning down the country
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because some of the people
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there creating another problem
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that puts more blame back on on on the black community
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and.
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I started protesting when I was nineteen years old
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and I'm I'm old enough to know that maybe this is not
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not for me to be out in the streets
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but I want to be on the street my heart out in the streets
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with the young people and
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and for laws and policies to change
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and stop thinking that we are this
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and that other than what we really are
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if everyone knew the stories better in each household
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in each African American household
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there are more reasons for us to be proud to not
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and then we used to be a show on many years ago that there
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there tagline was there a million stories in the naked city
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there are a million stories in the city
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and we don't know them all
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but we would be proud to know them
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and they would just up with the community
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and I just think that the work that
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plan telemedicine did.
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Is part of their spring board
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for us to be proud.
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Everyone is a Lawrence and it need hearing there with the
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Robert estimates center
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and with me today are my calling
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and canvassing and archer they will
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talk about the Great Migration movie project
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some family members who brought in their own home with
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the speed that you're tight jeans tool
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and at Henderson and before we get going on they have a Candace
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in nine introduce themselves well
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hi everybody I'm Candace making I'm a media conservation
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and digitization specialists that amount.
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I I am I to argue and I am
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also a media conservation
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and digitize ation specialist our at the market
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and work with the day to day excitation it's
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been about the program via
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the Great Migration one movie project that's sort of a
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joint effort between the museum
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and the Smith center hang in Emily is from all over the country
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to have their home movies digitized by museum staff in
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our media conservation lab which is
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publicly viewable in the museum itself
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so far we've had we're beginning to approach a hundred families
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visiting with us and we're now up to over eight hundred home
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movies digitized and most of these
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are available publicly on the system
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and online virtual archive
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but today we really want to talk about
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what the impact of the program has had on the people have participated
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so we want to introduce our good friends who visit us multiple
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times innocent woman and Henderson
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the first thing we really want to ask you is
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how did you first hear about the program
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and what was your ex what's been your experience you know visiting
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us in the lab and bringing your home movies
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and I'm seeing these treasures
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for the first time in quite a long time
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and and this is true well
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I first heard about the project at
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a Labor Day event here in highland beach
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it wasn't opening exhibits
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are where they were featuring some home movies that have been
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digitized at the Smith foundation M.
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in the process the person in charge said
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indeed that we haven't gotten to your dad's films
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yet and I said my dad's films what built in
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so my brother had been looking
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for these films for quite some time
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we didn't know that my dad had donated them
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to highland beach so once we recovered the film's
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my brother and I got together made appointments
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and took turns bringing the films in
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to the museum to have them digitized
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my brother and I both went
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the first time so we could get an orientation
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and see what the lay of the land was
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and get an understanding of what was going to happen
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and then we divided up and came back with what I came
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from Annapolis Maryland he came from falls church Virginia
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and we're very pleased with the the way the whole
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process went it was seamless
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we got to see more of the museum
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while we were there if you could never get enough of the museum
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right and when we left each time we got
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one of these can drive because then the movies were recorded
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on the strides that we got one of these each
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which we were able to download
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and share with our other family members
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so that was very rude very nice
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are you called the Great Migration program
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actually my both my parents are from this area which I don't
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really consider the south even North Carolina border
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and they moved south two
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for their working careers at Tuskegee which is in Alabama
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and then all of the siblings were moved back
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up here actor leaving Tuskegee
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so it's kind of a reverse migration
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and then a re migration back appear.
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Was it like to see those
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for the first time in in such a long time
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it took us back a bit a number of the films
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I had spliced together from several years
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you know a certain year we will put together
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and and generally speaking there we took a lot of movies
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during Christmas isn't Teske
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and summers in highland beach.
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My parents are very creative
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and my mother B. and I'm
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a kindergarten teacher at one point
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one of the films I think it's nineteen fifty three R. I. we're
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at the beach in the summertime
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and she R. makes a on a on a blackboard she draws you know
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:50.010
swimming the water and says to the beach we go
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okay so that is filmed before we show the show was going
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to the beach and another one is
00:29:55.770 --> 00:29:57.460
to grandmother's house we go
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and it shows us walking up the road going to remember this
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house hello.
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And with those also a lot of movies will put together a couple
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real sin this is an example of
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what we were putting together it's
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like four hundred foot by sixteen millimeter reels.
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Of special events like the year that we were in
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Europe my father was biomedical researcher
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and we spent a year out sorry several kilometers outside
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of Paris while he was doing a research there
00:30:36.670 --> 00:30:38.440
and we just went everywhere
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.000
and and so we took movies everywhere
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.100
and then if the the Europe the year in Europe
00:30:45.100 --> 00:30:49.060
every place we went they show a map
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they show a map and trace the route on the map
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so that you can see exactly
00:30:54.310 --> 00:30:55.650
where we were going the routes
00:30:55.650 --> 00:30:58.920
and everything these films actually show
00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:02.830
a lot of our adventures whether it was
00:31:02.830 --> 00:31:04.420
going to Rome for Christmas
00:31:04.420 --> 00:31:09.680
so Scandinavia in the spring time or
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:13.410
travelling to Germany and Switzerland of the parts of
00:31:13.410 --> 00:31:15.110
your Prague we went to Prague even
00:31:15.110 --> 00:31:18.550
though it was behind the Iron Curtain it's time
00:31:18.550 --> 00:31:23.530
to have them you know for posterity
00:31:23.530 --> 00:31:25.520
to show to our next to the
00:31:25.520 --> 00:31:28.370
next generation after us
00:31:28.370 --> 00:31:31.770
was very very yeah the very valuable thing I think
00:31:31.770 --> 00:31:36.120
my mother took notes the whole time we were in Europe
00:31:36.120 --> 00:31:40.740
and this book was published after her death
00:31:40.740 --> 00:31:45.460
but the movies hello or at least that year of movies
00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:49.270
help to bring that story to life am
00:31:49.270 --> 00:31:51.930
I what it is saying kind of
00:31:51.930 --> 00:31:54.500
answering the question to
00:31:54.500 --> 00:31:57.440
how much this is really meant to me
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:03.180
and my family we took about three months in a night going back
00:32:03.180 --> 00:32:05.290
and forth to the museum
00:32:05.290 --> 00:32:09.260
we take about three or four reels each visit
00:32:09.260 --> 00:32:11.870
and we had twenty five reels
00:32:11.870 --> 00:32:14.290
so that was a quite a few visits
00:32:14.290 --> 00:32:16.130
well we finished right before mother's day
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so on mother's day my sister
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:20.030
and I and our families got together
00:32:20.030 --> 00:32:22.260
and we can move the time
00:32:22.260 --> 00:32:26.460
and we watched the and our children were with us
00:32:26.460 --> 00:32:27.600
who are grown children now
00:32:27.600 --> 00:32:32.640
but okay as they watch these movies with us
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.960
and they will it not only gave my sister
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:40.220
and me a chance to relive our cherished childhood
00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:43.930
but it gave our children a chance to see us grow up
00:32:43.930 --> 00:32:49.060
literally from nineteen fifty two to nineteen eighty
00:32:49.060 --> 00:32:53.000
my dad had made movies and
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.430
so one of the particularly special
00:32:56.430 --> 00:33:01.300
things about that is that my youngest son never got to
00:33:01.300 --> 00:33:06.190
know my mother she died shortly after he was born
00:33:06.190 --> 00:33:09.520
but he heard a lot about her he heard all about her
00:33:09.520 --> 00:33:11.880
and of course he had seen pictures
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:15.450
but he got to meet her through these movie
00:33:15.450 --> 00:33:17.940
and he got to see who we were talking about
00:33:17.940 --> 00:33:19.400
and kind of get to know her
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.930
and that to me was precious.
00:33:24.620 --> 00:33:28.920
Just to be able to seeing her moving to Boston
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:33.250
really really striking what exactly
00:33:33.250 --> 00:33:36.270
because we have photos we have photo albums
00:33:36.270 --> 00:33:41.050
over all the years but the movies bring the photo photos
00:33:41.050 --> 00:33:43.910
to life are the photos tell stories
00:33:43.910 --> 00:33:46.440
but the movies bring the stories to life
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:47.800
and that's what we have
00:33:47.800 --> 00:33:50.920
with these movies.
00:33:51.130 --> 00:33:53.400
Was it always your dad behind the camera
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:56.030
or was he ever in in the films
00:33:56.030 --> 00:34:00.990
did anyone else our shoot.
00:34:01.890 --> 00:34:06.010
I shot some most of it is dead
00:34:06.010 --> 00:34:08.210
I mean he he was the one that
00:34:08.210 --> 00:34:12.090
is that is the major cinematographer one yeah
00:34:12.090 --> 00:34:13.590
he he not only took movies
00:34:13.590 --> 00:34:18.650
but he took a lot of our sites yeah minds develop
00:34:18.650 --> 00:34:20.950
maybe less than a million of them yeah
00:34:20.950 --> 00:34:24.810
and I know one time my mother was joking that he would hang
00:34:24.810 --> 00:34:26.710
off the side of a tree to get to
00:34:26.710 --> 00:34:30.740
the right angle of just the right shot of this is bad
00:34:30.740 --> 00:34:33.520
he was quite a photographer might I say
00:34:33.520 --> 00:34:40.140
also that it helped to reinforce my own memory of these events
00:34:40.140 --> 00:34:44.670
as well and after which
00:34:44.670 --> 00:34:48.660
I had conversations with my older siblings
00:34:48.660 --> 00:34:54.010
told me things that I did not have a concept of
00:34:54.010 --> 00:34:56.580
as a younger child at the time
00:34:56.580 --> 00:34:58.130
and therefore that was valuable
00:34:58.130 --> 00:35:00.700
also.
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I am so grateful to the Great Migration project
00:35:03.820 --> 00:35:07.550
and for the robin Smith foundation
00:35:07.550 --> 00:35:11.300
for doing this it is helped us not only to preserve
00:35:11.300 --> 00:35:14.410
but to bring our history to life
00:35:14.410 --> 00:35:19.110
for us to remember and for generations to come to look back
00:35:19.110 --> 00:35:22.790
on and and learn who we are who we were I think
00:35:22.790 --> 00:35:30.670
that we we grew up it made in the fifties
00:35:30.670 --> 00:35:33.100
forties fifties and sixties
00:35:33.100 --> 00:35:37.600
even though there was turmoil going on I think it was a really
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I delete time in the history of American.
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.530
Because there is why is
00:35:45.530 --> 00:35:49.420
society so much different now.
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:55.620
I think that children growing up today are there
00:35:55.620 --> 00:36:01.660
so much that is vying for their attention
00:36:01.660 --> 00:36:06.060
that yes so much more busyness
00:36:06.060 --> 00:36:08.190
as far as what they can
00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:12.460
get into or things that they have to.
00:36:14.500 --> 00:36:19.260
Sift through and I just think that
00:36:19.260 --> 00:36:23.710
we grew up in there in a very special time in American history
00:36:23.710 --> 00:36:29.330
and I'm glad that my father was able to record it in the movies
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.
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This is the Henderson family owned liquor.
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Send me the big head level one.
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The red.
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And all the family came to life.
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This is been fun yeah you see
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good to see you guys yeah joining us tonight
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I think Iran is taking good care of the plant you left us
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I okay okay now when I talk to.
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Hello my goodness yes that is why I called
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why time I come I'm gonna have a
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different plan for you okay thank you.
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On the side.
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Thank both.
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What.
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They do so.
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Good evening and welcome to
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the family history portion of this event
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my name is Hannah Scruggs
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and I'm on the staff of the Robert F.
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Smith explore your family history center at the national museum
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of African American history
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and culture yeah Robert F. Smith
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explained him a history center speaks to serve visitors
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to the museum and people who use the website to
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teach them how to do research on
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industry to do genealogy research when we were
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on site in the museum we did daily genealogy sessions where
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we would teach people the basics of using
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ancestry dot com familysearch dot org
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and bold three to find records about their family
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we also did monthly public programs
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that we would run about different topics related to genealogy
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at the family history center
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while we are virtual we are
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teaching people how to do the same types of things online
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through email session their sessions on Sam
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and we also travel with it Smith enter
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to do the communication program we do
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public programming related to family
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and community at St today we are speaking with Adrian Franks
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she is an ambassador for the museum
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and she has done extensive research on her family history
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and we are excited to bring this conversation.
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Start the interview on Adrian the
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first question my name's Lisa crawling on a member of the family
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history center so Adrian how did you get interested in genealogy
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so it was and I stumbled into
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I've always been interested in black history I was raised
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to understand my history
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I even participate in a family reunion that includes my
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great grandfather his four brothers
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and those descendants and
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so I have had no family history has always been around you
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know I was the child in roots came out.
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But as my father's siblings started passing away
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that's when I started really getting interested in the stories
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that I knew they knew that I could go to the mast
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and I wanted to make sure that I knew their stories now that
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we were we were losing and
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so I asked a question at the family
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the family reunion what what was the name of our
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great you know we have our great grandfather
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what was the name of his father
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and no one could help me
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and so I was curious about it
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and I really stumbled in June during the junior allergy research
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because there was a tweet about the town that might
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that my family had come out of its products quite Carolina
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and so I you know just started falling down an internet rabbit
00:41:38.090 --> 00:41:40.470
hole and found familysearch
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and talk to some other people
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and quickly became obsessed with doing this research
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now my understanding also is that you
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you did come to the museum you've been to the family history
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center and you've also been involved with the genealogy groups
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can you share that experience
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as well yeah absolutely I I was excited
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to become an ambassador before the museum opened I was there
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on opening day crying in the museum is just such a beautiful
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place so I I I learned about the family history center
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that that date during opening the opening
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the grand opening and I just think it is a beautiful way
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to tie the history so in addition to being an ambassador
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at the museum I am now a member I started attending some
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of their programming that you offer
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and so at one of those talks I
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finally connected to a group called the Afro American
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historical and genealogical society there is a DC chapter
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and I can active with some people who were members of ox
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and I started attending the meetings
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and they invited me to the national chapter
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I mean the national conference
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on that has been a tremendous community of people
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that have helped me figure out what I was doing
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an ensign tools and not just tools
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and resources to do the work
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the people that I could talk to about this
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so that has been a tremendous benefit
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but yeah the I think the museum is a
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it's a beautiful the family history center is a beautiful way
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to make the museum more interactive
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as if it's not already but it's it makes your history more
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personal so you shared how you started on the journey
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and when she started where
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what were you hoping to fine
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as you got further into your research what did you think you're
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going to find so I was it started out with one question
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you know what were the names of my great great grandparents
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and I had no idea how to find that
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so when I fell into the rabbit hole
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and I hold up some records yeah when I once I found that you
00:44:00.050 --> 00:44:02.910
know I knew the town I knew the name
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and I punched it in June our family search dot org all these
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records popped up and there was all this information
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it was just like right there in plain sight
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and so not only was that transformative that was exciting
00:44:18.660 --> 00:44:20.530
but then I started asking if
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my great great grandparents information was right here
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and it was easy to find
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despite what everybody tells us tell us about them
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African American genealogy it was right there I'm
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what else could I find out about my other great great grandparents
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so I'm you know I I threw out a challenge to myself to see
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if I could identify all sixteen
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of my great great grandparents
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and at the time I knew my parents
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I knew the names of all of my grandparents
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I knew one set of great great well
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three great grandparents
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and so that's where I started
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and I just started having conversations
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and plugging information
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and you know doing research
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and going dogs and learning tools
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.110
and resources and it just started happening very quickly
00:45:12.110 --> 00:45:16.290
so I've actually been able to identify I call it
00:45:16.290 --> 00:45:21.000
twelve into possible you know I identified
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that the family had understood where our great
00:45:24.080 --> 00:45:26.030
great grandparents and now
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because of my research that's actually a question.
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In eighteen is quite a feat to be able to
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say that you discovered
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twelve o'clock and two possibles
00:45:40.390 --> 00:45:42.440
were there any key moments
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did you have any kind of
00:45:43.500 --> 00:45:45.600
breakthrough moments that kind of
00:45:45.600 --> 00:45:49.520
busted the door wide open to the research yeah
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so it and it I'm I was on Twitter
00:45:53.650 --> 00:45:57.210
in fact it was it was after the two thousand sixteen election
00:45:57.210 --> 00:46:01.050
there was a tweet that went out that was about
00:46:01.050 --> 00:46:03.300
Klan activity in North Carolina
00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:07.040
and I stumbled upon an article about this that was
00:46:07.040 --> 00:46:10.610
fact checking and it happened to mention
00:46:10.610 --> 00:46:14.610
this random fact about North Carolina yeah
00:46:14.610 --> 00:46:18.480
in eighteen seventy they went under
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martial law and there was a war called the Kerr cold
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and more that I had never heard of
00:46:23.780 --> 00:46:27.050
and there was a battle between the clan
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and the North Carolina militia in Pittsboro
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and that just set me off
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because I had just asked about the town
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and they told me I thought they said Pittsburgh up
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like years of Pittsburgh North Carolina
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so when I found out it was pitch
00:46:40.040 --> 00:46:42.050
for and then I see this article
00:46:42.050 --> 00:46:45.040
I started googling I started you know bump around to see what
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I could find and I actually ran across cemetery records
00:46:48.610 --> 00:46:52.300
so when I had my grandfather's name I punched in the town I
00:46:52.300 --> 00:46:56.040
question his name is cemetery records came up
00:46:56.040 --> 00:46:57.560
with the cemetery records
00:46:57.560 --> 00:47:00.890
also had a list of all the other people that were buried
00:47:00.890 --> 00:47:02.630
in the cemetery in Pittsburgh
00:47:02.630 --> 00:47:05.900
now all I've ever known was my father my grandfather was
00:47:05.900 --> 00:47:08.330
he died when my father was about thirteen years old
00:47:08.330 --> 00:47:11.990
and all they ever said was he was buried out in the country
00:47:11.990 --> 00:47:14.810
and so I've gone from knowing absolutely nothing
00:47:14.810 --> 00:47:18.050
to having this record that says here is where your grandfather
00:47:18.050 --> 00:47:20.540
is scary in addition to that
00:47:20.540 --> 00:47:23.190
as I started looking at the list there were other
00:47:23.190 --> 00:47:27.730
bikes and so I knew my great grandfather's name he was listed
00:47:27.730 --> 00:47:30.630
there I knew my great great grandmother I mean my great grandmother
00:47:30.630 --> 00:47:34.530
she was listed there and on my great
00:47:34.530 --> 00:47:39.270
grandfather's burial notes it says the father of
00:47:39.270 --> 00:47:42.030
George is John Jack and Lisa
00:47:42.030 --> 00:47:44.930
and I it was just like sitting there
00:47:44.930 --> 00:47:47.760
I couldn't believe it so I actually
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:49.700
you know I I was excited to go see it
00:47:49.700 --> 00:47:55.320
and I got my all my cousins together the day after thanksgiving
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.490
and we drove down into this country with some coordinates
00:47:58.490 --> 00:48:01.260
and we had called a distant cousin to try to figure it out
00:48:01.260 --> 00:48:05.570
and we found this still active cemetery that you wouldn't find
00:48:05.570 --> 00:48:06.900
without knowing it was back there
00:48:06.900 --> 00:48:09.820
because it was back between two houses
00:48:09.820 --> 00:48:12.360
and you know here is just
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.390
the the moment when you're standing there
00:48:16.390 --> 00:48:19.730
looking at these great some of them are marked some of them
00:48:19.730 --> 00:48:22.740
are not but just knowing that
00:48:22.740 --> 00:48:25.650
here is this place where my ancestors are
00:48:25.650 --> 00:48:30.160
which just I you know I I was I always talk about
00:48:30.160 --> 00:48:33.430
you never think about having fun in the cemetery that was
00:48:33.430 --> 00:48:35.870
a tremendous day we were bumping around
00:48:35.870 --> 00:48:37.120
and looking at headstones
00:48:37.120 --> 00:48:38.420
and trying to figure out
00:48:38.420 --> 00:48:41.630
first dates and it was really
00:48:41.630 --> 00:48:43.170
a transformative experience
00:48:43.170 --> 00:48:46.100
for me and you know all of the family members that I've been
00:48:46.100 --> 00:48:50.400
able to share this with hello
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.610
can you raise a good point engine is
00:48:52.610 --> 00:48:54.590
among a little earlier about
00:48:54.590 --> 00:48:59.930
eighteen seventy what we do genealogy research African Americans
00:48:59.930 --> 00:49:01.690
frequently have what we call
00:49:01.690 --> 00:49:03.470
the eighteen seventy brick wall
00:49:03.470 --> 00:49:06.460
and that is eighteen seventy is the
00:49:06.460 --> 00:49:09.130
first year that the sentence was collected after the end
00:49:09.130 --> 00:49:12.360
of slavery and some getting beyond eighteen seventy
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:14.080
and into this on the air
00:49:14.080 --> 00:49:15.760
presents some unique challenges
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.980
for our type of genealogy research
00:49:17.980 --> 00:49:21.290
but when you just said really you kind of highlight
00:49:21.290 --> 00:49:24.100
something that we speak on often in the family history center
00:49:24.100 --> 00:49:25.710
where we work with people
00:49:25.710 --> 00:49:27.980
and that is the misconception that
00:49:27.980 --> 00:49:31.220
African Americans do not appear in record
00:49:31.220 --> 00:49:33.570
and that is just something that's simply not true you just
00:49:33.570 --> 00:49:36.040
have to know where to look
00:49:36.040 --> 00:49:39.170
and so when you were conducting all of your research on what
00:49:39.170 --> 00:49:41.300
were the challenges that you faced
00:49:41.300 --> 00:49:44.040
in finding records prior to eighteen seventy
00:49:44.040 --> 00:49:46.430
and what types of records did you find
00:49:46.430 --> 00:49:51.100
so the challenge was really yes
00:49:51.100 --> 00:49:54.150
the I knew how to search you know
00:49:54.150 --> 00:49:57.580
you can enter in a Google search you can do genealogy research
00:49:57.580 --> 00:49:59.810
at this point which is tremendous you know
00:49:59.810 --> 00:50:03.920
and all the research that I've done I get to actually go
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:07.520
to a courthouse and I know the depth of the information is
00:50:07.520 --> 00:50:10.980
there in a courthouse but I was able to do most of this research
00:50:10.980 --> 00:50:14.370
on mine and so I would go talk to a family member
00:50:14.370 --> 00:50:15.870
and then it looks like some information
00:50:15.870 --> 00:50:18.250
and and then it was really kind of putting the crowd comes
00:50:18.250 --> 00:50:22.290
together what's tremendous is I was
00:50:22.290 --> 00:50:27.910
actually able to find my great great grandfather
00:50:27.910 --> 00:50:31.870
on eighteen eighteen forty one
00:50:31.870 --> 00:50:35.190
state records you know he's fourteen years old
00:50:35.190 --> 00:50:38.400
he's listed as an enslaved boy
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:42.340
and she is being given to the eldest daughter of
00:50:42.340 --> 00:50:49.370
the of the estate so that from that
00:50:49.370 --> 00:50:52.820
you know I was able to piece him together honestly schedule
00:50:52.820 --> 00:50:55.910
and I was able to find him on the eighteen seventy census
00:50:55.910 --> 00:50:58.330
so when I found his name on the census
00:50:58.330 --> 00:51:01.680
I had these other two documents prior to eighteen
00:51:01.680 --> 00:51:04.490
in eighteen forty one in eighteen sixty
00:51:04.490 --> 00:51:06.180
that I could compare against
00:51:06.180 --> 00:51:11.140
and say you know the date matches you know be a flavor matches
00:51:11.140 --> 00:51:13.630
the town matches and so
00:51:13.630 --> 00:51:15.010
you know I'm finding things
00:51:15.010 --> 00:51:18.800
like eighteen so so it it's
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.510
it is all of my research
00:51:21.510 --> 00:51:23.610
and the very different branches I've gone
00:51:23.610 --> 00:51:27.800
as far back right now the earliest date I have
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:31.900
in eighteen ten and this is just vital records
00:51:31.900 --> 00:51:33.880
and you know census records
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:36.750
and doing the math with you know if you were forty five years
00:51:36.750 --> 00:51:39.550
old in eighteen sixty about how you know
00:51:39.550 --> 00:51:41.760
how old were you you know
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:43.260
when during emancipation
00:51:43.260 --> 00:51:45.310
and then how old were you you know
00:51:45.310 --> 00:51:48.730
when we import and so it's really kind of
00:51:48.730 --> 00:51:51.050
like putting together a puzzle
00:51:51.050 --> 00:51:54.100
except all of my family members have to pieces
00:51:54.100 --> 00:51:56.020
so you know the family members
00:51:56.020 --> 00:51:59.490
and I'm calling distant relatives that I'm calling that have
00:51:59.490 --> 00:52:04.970
funeral programs and recollections of being in a place
00:52:04.970 --> 00:52:09.490
my my uncle was able to take it would be be back down to that
00:52:09.490 --> 00:52:13.010
cemetery and show me the unmarked the place where you know
00:52:13.010 --> 00:52:15.720
the area where the unmarked graves were
00:52:15.720 --> 00:52:17.930
in our family because he remembers being there
00:52:17.930 --> 00:52:22.060
as a child and so it really was something that I wouldn't be
00:52:22.060 --> 00:52:25.550
able to do by myself but in
00:52:25.550 --> 00:52:28.260
learning my history and talking to my family
00:52:28.260 --> 00:52:31.890
and using the tools of genealogy I was able to piece things
00:52:31.890 --> 00:52:37.000
together so you know that eighteen seventy eight eighteen sixty
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.860
well I just I'm because I'm generation acts
00:52:40.860 --> 00:52:44.650
you know my great great grandparents were either in slave
00:52:44.650 --> 00:52:47.260
or they were free but they were all living
00:52:47.260 --> 00:52:49.440
you know during emancipation
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.340
and so what I've been encouraging people to do
00:52:52.340 --> 00:52:54.720
is to go start asking those questions
00:52:54.720 --> 00:52:57.540
and doing that research you know I I put out a
00:52:57.540 --> 00:53:02.010
great sixteen challenging it can be a call there
00:53:02.010 --> 00:53:07.900
because B. you never know how easy it I wish I was stunned
00:53:07.900 --> 00:53:11.830
how easy it was to find this information when I really started
00:53:11.830 --> 00:53:13.850
focusing in on but I wanted to know
00:53:13.850 --> 00:53:17.890
and the tools that are out here to do that.
00:53:20.250 --> 00:53:25.270
You just mentioned senior investors name on in state record
00:53:25.270 --> 00:53:28.630
with as as property of the
00:53:28.630 --> 00:53:34.400
person back in slave and being given to you
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:40.890
that person's daughter and often we do genealogy research
00:53:40.890 --> 00:53:43.610
we can encounter things that bring up difficult emotions
00:53:43.610 --> 00:53:46.620
especially after American genealogy research
00:53:46.620 --> 00:53:50.090
we often encounter insulation the members
00:53:50.090 --> 00:53:51.990
and and seeing them listed
00:53:51.990 --> 00:53:58.130
as property or we find the gaps in our family oral history
00:53:58.130 --> 00:54:01.530
that members are reluctant to discuss
00:54:01.530 --> 00:54:02.900
you can bring that generational
00:54:02.900 --> 00:54:06.350
and community trauma to the forefront of our minds when we're
00:54:06.350 --> 00:54:08.600
working on that would you mind talking to us
00:54:08.600 --> 00:54:10.420
for a little bit about the emotional part
00:54:10.420 --> 00:54:13.510
and how you've dealt with some of those emotions
00:54:13.510 --> 00:54:16.880
and maybe some of the lessons that you learn from them
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.230
sure.
00:54:19.270 --> 00:54:23.840
I it's interesting you know I was kind of doing this dance
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:25.260
with this a state record
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you know I saw the name
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and I saw the information
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:29.590
and it was like I'm not ready to now
00:54:29.590 --> 00:54:31.880
so I you know contacted my came back
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:33.470
and I contacted my came back
00:54:33.470 --> 00:54:37.720
and I finally started reading through its its thirty five page
00:54:37.720 --> 00:54:39.680
document that's hand written
00:54:39.680 --> 00:54:42.600
and I'm reading and reading
00:54:42.600 --> 00:54:46.880
and reading and I hear you know I see it Nancy fight
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:49.630
Jack valued at three hundred
00:54:49.630 --> 00:54:51.830
and eighty three dollars
00:54:51.830 --> 00:54:55.900
and it just like you know we talk about slavery we talk
00:54:55.900 --> 00:54:58.250
about this you know and it kind of abstract
00:54:58.250 --> 00:55:03.510
but to say I know that my great great great grandfather's life
00:55:03.510 --> 00:55:06.100
was only valued at three hundred eighty two
00:55:06.100 --> 00:55:08.680
yeah in a moment where we're talking about the black lives
00:55:08.680 --> 00:55:11.850
matter in a moment we're we're talking about freedom
00:55:11.850 --> 00:55:16.380
and liberation of people it just it got it me
00:55:16.380 --> 00:55:18.660
and I read it and I didn't want to believe it
00:55:18.660 --> 00:55:20.290
and I didn't want to verify it
00:55:20.290 --> 00:55:22.660
and then when I just you know there was this
00:55:22.660 --> 00:55:27.350
sense of ancestors you know guiding you to the documents
00:55:27.350 --> 00:55:29.930
saying that like look here look there
00:55:29.930 --> 00:55:32.960
and so when I found it there was this knowing that this was
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:36.770
true and honestly I had to go back to bed I just I couldn't
00:55:36.770 --> 00:55:40.590
handle it it was so painful
00:55:40.590 --> 00:55:43.320
and then because I didn't know how to feel
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:46.850
I didn't know how big we don't talk about how to process this
00:55:46.850 --> 00:55:53.340
type of information so you know yes it was painful
00:55:53.340 --> 00:55:58.120
and then right in that game was this
00:55:58.120 --> 00:56:02.820
indescribable well all of No Way
00:56:02.820 --> 00:56:06.440
I cried and shrinks and you know I
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:10.140
never thought I'd be happy to know that it's a horrible thing
00:56:10.140 --> 00:56:13.250
should know but it was almost
00:56:13.250 --> 00:56:16.260
like look what we come you know it was
00:56:16.260 --> 00:56:19.360
like we even survive yes
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:22.450
and so I came out on the other side
00:56:22.450 --> 00:56:25.490
thinking you can you know
00:56:25.490 --> 00:56:27.980
you can't tell me anything
00:56:27.980 --> 00:56:32.350
what might look at what my family has survived look how tremendous
00:56:32.350 --> 00:56:35.450
we are and so it kind of put
00:56:35.450 --> 00:56:38.890
things that I was going through in perspective
00:56:38.890 --> 00:56:43.480
and so what I'm doing now is encouraging people to
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:48.030
begin shoot face the truth
00:56:48.030 --> 00:56:49.780
they say the truth will set you free
00:56:49.780 --> 00:56:53.750
it really has and I'm watching the transformation
00:56:53.750 --> 00:56:55.510
and my family as I call them
00:56:55.510 --> 00:56:58.120
and I tell them you know what I'm finding
00:56:58.120 --> 00:57:01.480
and there's just stunned to silence
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.340
but it's like having a lost family member
00:57:04.340 --> 00:57:07.510
and then knowing what happened to them
00:57:07.510 --> 00:57:11.090
it it is it's snowing and it's transformative
00:57:11.090 --> 00:57:15.790
and it's it's I have no doubt in my mind it is the work
00:57:15.790 --> 00:57:18.230
that we are being called to do all that
00:57:18.230 --> 00:57:22.060
and I and I like to encourage everyone to do it
00:57:22.060 --> 00:57:25.390
and actually I'm working on
00:57:25.390 --> 00:57:27.620
helping people hold space
00:57:27.620 --> 00:57:31.150
for that process and to begin to think about what it looks
00:57:31.150 --> 00:57:32.650
like to face that truth
00:57:32.650 --> 00:57:38.420
because there are records that I need to complete my story
00:57:38.420 --> 00:57:43.580
that someone has you know it's it's very likely that the families
00:57:43.580 --> 00:57:45.530
that were in sleeping people have records
00:57:45.530 --> 00:57:48.810
as well and I have talked to a few people who have been covered
00:57:48.810 --> 00:57:50.520
things and they didn't know what to do with it
00:57:50.520 --> 00:57:53.020
and they didn't want to talk about it in the family didn't
00:57:53.020 --> 00:57:54.910
want to come forward with it
00:57:54.910 --> 00:57:58.620
we need that truth you know the museum talks about the unvarnished
00:57:58.620 --> 00:58:02.520
truth if we're ever going to get past this
00:58:02.520 --> 00:58:05.950
how to begin uncovering
00:58:05.950 --> 00:58:06.970
the truth of what it is
00:58:06.970 --> 00:58:08.060
and working through that
00:58:08.060 --> 00:58:10.280
so I am actually encouraging
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:13.150
in slaver people who descended from the enslaved
00:58:13.150 --> 00:58:15.890
as well as people who went to sentiments labors
00:58:15.890 --> 00:58:19.810
to begin coming out with that information it
00:58:19.810 --> 00:58:24.040
it's it's a truth telling that's necessary.
00:58:26.780 --> 00:58:29.220
You touched on this a little better now
00:58:29.220 --> 00:58:32.250
back how did your family respond when you share that with them
00:58:32.250 --> 00:58:33.960
I know they said they were stunned to silence
00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:37.200
but if there's more detail were they receptive Burdick's I
00:58:37.200 --> 00:58:39.560
did telling Warren do you have family
00:58:39.560 --> 00:58:40.890
now that is on this journey with you
00:58:40.890 --> 00:58:43.790
also researching.
00:58:44.420 --> 00:58:48.490
Yes it.
00:58:48.710 --> 00:58:52.150
The progression of interest you know I do not
00:58:52.150 --> 00:58:54.310
very few of my family have been interested in calling
00:58:54.310 --> 00:58:58.160
for documents with me however you know I have some cousins
00:58:58.160 --> 00:58:59.930
that and some friends and
00:58:59.930 --> 00:59:02.700
you know immediate family member that they just every time
00:59:02.700 --> 00:59:04.670
a ready for an adventure you know
00:59:04.670 --> 00:59:06.430
I still have family down in the area
00:59:06.430 --> 00:59:07.750
so when I'm like you but
00:59:07.750 --> 00:59:10.110
for the pandemic of like I'm coming back down
00:59:10.110 --> 00:59:11.090
and I would stay with them
00:59:11.090 --> 00:59:14.380
and we would you know head down into the country to look
00:59:14.380 --> 00:59:19.170
at these records we have.
00:59:19.170 --> 00:59:23.960
Distant cousins and you know hygge through eight
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:26.840
a historic cemetery but you know we have the
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:29.190
like we're hiking through the woods you know
00:59:29.190 --> 00:59:33.070
so we we have done I my family is tremendously interested
00:59:33.070 --> 00:59:36.080
in it and are you know we have a family reunion
00:59:36.080 --> 00:59:41.420
and on all three of my four branches I've been asked
00:59:41.420 --> 00:59:45.480
to do some level of presentation about the work that I'm fighting
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:48.710
so people are truly interested in it
00:59:48.710 --> 00:59:53.460
it is information everybody wants to know I know more
00:59:53.460 --> 00:59:56.720
about myself now that I've discovered this information
00:59:56.720 --> 01:00:01.390
about my family I makes sense in a way that I didn't make sense
01:00:01.390 --> 01:00:06.620
or and I think that that has is held true to
01:00:06.620 --> 01:00:09.940
my extended family last thanksgiving we gathered the
01:00:09.940 --> 01:00:13.070
first cousins and our children together
01:00:13.070 --> 01:00:14.600
and my family was laughing at me
01:00:14.600 --> 01:00:17.360
because it it kind of happened naturally they call that
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:21.680
the miss Jane Pittman moment you know I have my stars
01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:23.680
and you know we're in my cousin's hallway
01:00:23.680 --> 01:00:26.980
and he has these family pictures that he's put together
01:00:26.980 --> 01:00:29.040
and I was going through with the kids
01:00:29.040 --> 01:00:31.560
and I was like do you know who this is you know who that is
01:00:31.560 --> 01:00:33.490
and I'm telling the story of our family
01:00:33.490 --> 01:00:35.400
and the descendants and I look up
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.430
and you know my my cousins
01:00:37.430 --> 01:00:40.040
and my siblings are at the top the steps taken pictures
01:00:40.040 --> 01:00:45.970
of me but they were like this is awesome well.
01:00:47.670 --> 01:00:51.140
You know it was the moment when it was you know
01:00:51.140 --> 01:00:53.060
people interested and and
01:00:53.060 --> 01:00:56.680
so you know in any way that they take an interest in it whether
01:00:56.680 --> 01:00:59.020
they are digging through records with me are climbing
01:00:59.020 --> 01:01:03.930
through you know bush to find some hundred year old graves
01:01:03.930 --> 01:01:05.260
or just opening your home
01:01:05.260 --> 01:01:08.020
and letting me stay with them when I come to history R. or
01:01:08.020 --> 01:01:11.600
welcoming heat you know to the
01:01:11.600 --> 01:01:14.510
picnic where I do a presentation
01:01:14.510 --> 01:01:16.590
they're finding different date
01:01:16.590 --> 01:01:19.820
they're sending me pictures they are they are sending me
01:01:19.820 --> 01:01:22.810
your program so they're participating in all kinds of ways
01:01:22.810 --> 01:01:26.700
to help uncover this.
01:01:28.340 --> 01:01:31.270
That's great and you mentioned photographs we just
01:01:31.270 --> 01:01:33.860
wanted to ask do we understand that you had some photographs
01:01:33.860 --> 01:01:37.470
digitize it community curation Baltimore
01:01:37.470 --> 01:01:40.630
a few years ago and if you would share that story with
01:01:40.630 --> 01:01:45.220
yeah that was nearly something
01:01:45.220 --> 01:01:49.260
we have pictures that are my father had
01:01:49.260 --> 01:01:56.010
in his in his a fax and my father had been gone he died
01:01:56.010 --> 01:02:01.120
in ninety six and so we just have these pictures
01:02:01.120 --> 01:02:04.740
and there was you know so I took a whole bucket
01:02:04.740 --> 01:02:08.020
service to the family history center to get digitized when
01:02:08.020 --> 01:02:11.430
they were in Baltimore with the community curation
01:02:11.430 --> 01:02:14.310
and there was one picture in particular of a gentleman that
01:02:14.310 --> 01:02:17.080
it was kind of fuzzy and we didn't know exactly who it was
01:02:17.080 --> 01:02:18.330
we thought it was our grandfather
01:02:18.330 --> 01:02:21.040
but we weren't sure and
01:02:21.040 --> 01:02:24.690
so I was so excited and I went into the room with
01:02:24.690 --> 01:02:26.790
the team as they were digitizing the records
01:02:26.790 --> 01:02:30.260
and on this huge screen
01:02:30.260 --> 01:02:32.000
they call up the face of this man
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:33.270
and they're enhancing it
01:02:33.270 --> 01:02:38.540
and it was just us I looked at his face
01:02:38.540 --> 01:02:41.320
and I knew exactly who it was
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:45.470
and it was the first time in my life I was looking at my grandfather's
01:02:45.470 --> 01:02:49.970
feet and I can't tell you what that did
01:02:49.970 --> 01:02:53.720
for me it it I knew what his
01:02:53.720 --> 01:02:57.080
father looks like because I had a picture of him
01:02:57.080 --> 01:02:58.670
I knew what my father looked
01:02:58.670 --> 01:03:02.220
like and so I'm staring at this man's face
01:03:02.220 --> 01:03:07.570
and I'm like this is this is my grandfather.
01:03:07.640 --> 01:03:11.320
And what was more tremendous about it is looks
01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:15.750
so much like my nephew and I was able to
01:03:15.750 --> 01:03:17.920
like you know I was having a moment
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:22.420
and I was able to you know snap a picture you know of the picture
01:03:22.420 --> 01:03:24.470
and I texted to my my cousins
01:03:24.470 --> 01:03:26.680
and my daughter in my you know
01:03:26.680 --> 01:03:29.260
nieces and nephews and I said
01:03:29.260 --> 01:03:32.220
this is grandpa like this is the person we've been hearing
01:03:32.220 --> 01:03:37.990
about I it's priceless like I I can't
01:03:37.990 --> 01:03:40.860
I can't tell you what that did
01:03:40.860 --> 01:03:45.780
for our family to have that Soto.
01:03:45.860 --> 01:03:48.780
So it's just something you know I am
01:03:48.780 --> 01:03:50.140
I'm tremendously grateful
01:03:50.140 --> 01:03:52.560
for.
01:03:55.810 --> 01:03:57.600
In our last question for you
01:03:57.600 --> 01:03:59.450
before you wrap up is what's
01:03:59.450 --> 01:04:01.920
next for you and your family history research
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:03.000
you have more questions
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:07.410
and or and or do you plan to write about your findings
01:04:07.410 --> 01:04:12.580
so I'm I'm yeah I am I am
01:04:12.580 --> 01:04:14.970
shooting off in all kinds of different directions
01:04:14.970 --> 01:04:18.200
because one of the reasons why I would go I would not have
01:04:18.200 --> 01:04:19.790
done it this way if I had known
01:04:19.790 --> 01:04:22.540
but now that I did it this way I'm very happy that I started
01:04:22.540 --> 01:04:25.240
looking for all sixteen great great grandparents
01:04:25.240 --> 01:04:29.170
because there were people on all sides of my family in different
01:04:29.170 --> 01:04:32.020
branches that had information I had I had
01:04:32.020 --> 01:04:34.290
started asking questions when I did
01:04:34.290 --> 01:04:36.690
that information would no longer be available
01:04:36.690 --> 01:04:43.090
now so what's next for me is she really I'm I'm digging deeper
01:04:43.090 --> 01:04:45.920
in June the women in the family
01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:50.070
who are often so difficult to find information about you know
01:04:50.070 --> 01:04:53.010
I know great great grandpa Jack was
01:04:53.010 --> 01:04:57.430
you know in slaves I know she was married to my great
01:04:57.430 --> 01:04:59.980
great grandmother of Lisa
01:04:59.980 --> 01:05:03.260
by eighteen seventy they already had six children
01:05:03.260 --> 01:05:07.120
they had some sort of personal property I know my
01:05:07.120 --> 01:05:08.370
great great grandpa Jack
01:05:08.370 --> 01:05:12.500
when Alan just you be appointed to the school board
01:05:12.500 --> 01:05:15.530
I'm I know he was a voter in eighteen eighty eight I know all
01:05:15.530 --> 01:05:17.810
this stuff about him I know
01:05:17.810 --> 01:05:20.460
absolutely nothing about her
01:05:20.460 --> 01:05:26.530
and so I would love to know more about her
01:05:26.530 --> 01:05:28.920
and I would love to know more about all of the women
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:33.670
that are in my family so in doing that research now.
01:05:34.740 --> 01:05:37.140
And as far as writing I'm
01:05:37.140 --> 01:05:39.220
the only thing that I've ever written was really
01:05:39.220 --> 01:05:42.620
for yeah I did a Ted talk on my
01:05:42.620 --> 01:05:45.030
my adventures but I also
01:05:45.030 --> 01:05:47.030
have presented by the family reunion
01:05:47.030 --> 01:05:50.090
so our official family reunion booklet now has the history
01:05:50.090 --> 01:05:52.430
of our great great grandparents in it
01:05:52.430 --> 01:05:54.960
because I and I provided pictures
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:57.110
and and documentation for that
01:05:57.110 --> 01:06:00.970
as well so I really haven't thought about the specifics
01:06:00.970 --> 01:06:05.870
of our family history sharing it beyond
01:06:05.870 --> 01:06:09.590
my family are you know we do using
01:06:09.590 --> 01:06:11.290
another branch my family needed
01:06:11.290 --> 01:06:13.510
me to zoom meetings where we
01:06:13.510 --> 01:06:15.550
have conversations at all put out pictures
01:06:15.550 --> 01:06:18.280
and documents and we'll just have conversations about what
01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:22.220
that is but you know it's it's
01:06:22.220 --> 01:06:25.540
it's a kind of banquet where I'd be interested
01:06:25.540 --> 01:06:27.890
I'm interested in other people's family stories
01:06:27.890 --> 01:06:30.540
but I hadn't thought about sharing my
01:06:30.540 --> 01:06:33.080
the specifics of my family story with other people
01:06:33.080 --> 01:06:35.720
outside of my own family
01:06:35.720 --> 01:06:39.160
so it's a possibility I think it's something we definitely
01:06:39.160 --> 01:06:42.610
should consider our region we just wanna thank you
01:06:42.610 --> 01:06:45.990
so much for taking the time to chat with us this evening
01:06:45.990 --> 01:06:49.170
the story is such a wonderful example of
01:06:49.170 --> 01:06:52.500
why doing genealogy research just on order by it
01:06:52.500 --> 01:06:54.410
so powerful and your star
01:06:54.410 --> 01:06:58.300
also highlights on something that we are
01:06:58.300 --> 01:06:59.920
about the family history center
01:06:59.920 --> 01:07:03.280
and that is for African Americans who are researching
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:06.330
their family to not just focus on documents
01:07:06.330 --> 01:07:08.440
and not just focus on oral history
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:11.620
but to do the two together that that is something that
01:07:11.620 --> 01:07:14.950
is really powerful and someone is really unique to our story
01:07:14.950 --> 01:07:17.550
as a people we wanna thank you
01:07:17.550 --> 01:07:21.100
for taking the time to talk to us about all of this today
01:07:21.100 --> 01:07:24.970
is anyone watching has questions about what we do on the family
01:07:24.970 --> 01:07:28.580
history center or if you're interested in reaching out to us
01:07:28.580 --> 01:07:31.110
for your own research session with
01:07:31.110 --> 01:07:33.650
a family history center team please
01:07:33.650 --> 01:07:36.850
don't hesitate to reach out to us our email is family history
01:07:36.850 --> 01:07:44.570
center at S. I dot EDU thank you thank you.
01:07:47.710 --> 01:07:51.730
Yeah I don't always one
01:07:51.730 --> 01:07:56.470
and done well that is something which is.
01:07:56.700 --> 01:07:59.250
Take it easy relaxed I was afraid
01:07:59.250 --> 01:08:02.570
that want to get an idea right.
01:08:03.170 --> 01:08:05.520
You know.
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:12.640
Five the ruling goes only to
01:08:12.640 --> 01:08:17.160
I know it is a nice bonus was a class a little bit early.
01:08:23.160 --> 01:08:26.140
Thanks for what was called.
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Transaction.
01:08:45.900 --> 01:08:52.250
Good evening again we so hope you enjoyed tonight's program
01:08:52.250 --> 01:08:55.820
our families our communities our histories captioning
01:08:55.820 --> 01:09:00.290
during spirit of life and taking a journey with
01:09:00.290 --> 01:09:03.420
a few of our families that we've worked with over
01:09:03.420 --> 01:09:07.140
the last several years I this is been presented to you by
01:09:07.140 --> 01:09:11.350
the Smith center for the digitization of African American history
01:09:11.350 --> 01:09:13.570
here at the national museum of African
01:09:13.570 --> 01:09:15.940
American history and culture
01:09:15.940 --> 01:09:20.010
so tonight you saw a glimpse of a few of the programs that
01:09:20.010 --> 01:09:22.260
we do here at the Smith center
01:09:22.260 --> 01:09:25.770
one was the community curation projects were out in the communities
01:09:25.770 --> 01:09:27.450
helping people digitize
01:09:27.450 --> 01:09:31.270
their family memories and we've been to Baltimore
01:09:31.270 --> 01:09:35.980
Denver and Chicago and will eventually get to New Orleans
01:09:35.980 --> 01:09:39.180
and then you also saw pieces from the Great Migration help
01:09:39.180 --> 01:09:42.220
movie project where people actually bring their items
01:09:42.220 --> 01:09:44.810
into be digitized onsite
01:09:44.810 --> 01:09:46.900
and then of course the family history center
01:09:46.900 --> 01:09:50.640
another onsite project that where people come in
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:52.570
and do their family history
01:09:52.570 --> 01:09:55.850
and we'll let you know as during his virtual time
01:09:55.850 --> 01:09:57.510
of it in this program how you can
01:09:57.510 --> 01:10:00.310
still participate in these projects
01:10:00.310 --> 01:10:05.090
the great thing is now we have a time to chat with
01:10:05.090 --> 01:10:07.910
my colleague who's been working with these projects
01:10:07.910 --> 01:10:09.620
for the last several years
01:10:09.620 --> 01:10:10.730
an interesting questions
01:10:10.730 --> 01:10:12.740
and hopefully you were able to
01:10:12.740 --> 01:10:15.460
ask some questions in the chat some of you send questions
01:10:15.460 --> 01:10:18.950
in our registration so we're going to answer some of those
01:10:18.950 --> 01:10:22.420
as well so this is great
01:10:22.420 --> 01:10:24.730
I'm going to start with a family history center team
01:10:24.730 --> 01:10:30.010
and they are here with us Lisa Crawley Camillus tenant
01:10:30.010 --> 01:10:34.620
and Hannah Scruggs so here's some questions that came in
01:10:34.620 --> 01:10:38.660
about family history doing family history our searches
01:10:38.660 --> 01:10:41.930
and what have you the first question is
01:10:41.930 --> 01:10:46.610
for Hannah yeah how does a person with very little
01:10:46.610 --> 01:10:48.310
knowledge aside from their parents
01:10:48.310 --> 01:10:53.520
and grandparents are begin the genealogical process what resources
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:56.830
are available.
01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:02.210
So we typically recommend that people start with a family member
01:11:02.210 --> 01:11:06.090
born before nineteen forty usually that
01:11:06.090 --> 01:11:08.620
is a parent or a grandparent
01:11:08.620 --> 01:11:11.730
or someone that parent or grandparent will remember
01:11:11.730 --> 01:11:14.820
so even if you just have that information is enough to get
01:11:14.820 --> 01:11:17.720
started we recommend using
01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:21.490
and trying to find this person in the U. S. census those are
01:11:21.490 --> 01:11:23.660
available through familysearch dot work
01:11:23.660 --> 01:11:28.240
for free and then by finding them in the census
01:11:28.240 --> 01:11:31.590
and locating them you may see who else is living in the household
01:11:31.590 --> 01:11:32.940
and that will help you to connect
01:11:32.940 --> 01:11:36.500
and learn more names of family members that you don't
01:11:36.500 --> 01:11:38.580
necessarily already now
01:11:38.580 --> 01:11:41.090
you basically repeat that process
01:11:41.090 --> 01:11:44.270
and as well as using other records
01:11:44.270 --> 01:11:45.690
like vinyl records birth marriage
01:11:45.690 --> 01:11:48.270
and death records other censuses
01:11:48.270 --> 01:11:51.930
and that's how you learn more names learn more at the stories
01:11:51.930 --> 01:11:54.830
of your family.
01:11:56.150 --> 01:11:58.900
Great thank you so much I'm just sure that information will
01:11:58.900 --> 01:12:03.070
help individuals working on family history
01:12:03.070 --> 01:12:07.790
for Lisa and Camilla here's a pretty detailed question
01:12:07.790 --> 01:12:11.800
in researching my family's my father's family
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:15.010
in South Carolina I was able to go back to eighteen twenty
01:12:15.010 --> 01:12:17.370
to find the name of my great grandfather
01:12:17.370 --> 01:12:21.740
because I found his name I assume he was free my question is
01:12:21.740 --> 01:12:25.220
how is this possible in eighteen twenty South Carolina
01:12:25.220 --> 01:12:27.820
how many free men were there during this time
01:12:27.820 --> 01:12:30.600
and what circumstances were African Americans free
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:32.210
where should I research this
01:12:32.210 --> 01:12:34.630
what sources do you suggest I use
01:12:34.630 --> 01:12:36.080
he lives near Spartanburg
01:12:36.080 --> 01:12:40.650
and his name was well his name was Adam
01:12:40.650 --> 01:12:42.980
Johnson's name Paris fuller
01:12:42.980 --> 01:12:45.930
because of the damage.
01:12:46.280 --> 01:12:52.300
This your great grandfather Paris fuller on the eighteen eighty
01:12:52.300 --> 01:12:53.890
census and we found him
01:12:53.890 --> 01:12:59.030
next door in Lawrence county which borders Spartanburg
01:12:59.030 --> 01:13:02.080
South Carolina he was sixty years old
01:13:02.080 --> 01:13:04.930
and he's living there with his family his wife
01:13:04.930 --> 01:13:09.260
and children we also paid attention to who else he was living
01:13:09.260 --> 01:13:13.360
nearby he was living close to two other phones
01:13:13.360 --> 01:13:16.520
for families like Stanley's
01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:18.510
with the first phase of James Fowler
01:13:18.510 --> 01:13:22.000
and Frank so we want to keep that in mind
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:23.170
we picked up the search
01:13:23.170 --> 01:13:27.140
continued to look for Paris an earlier censuses
01:13:27.140 --> 01:13:29.050
the eighteen seventy census
01:13:29.050 --> 01:13:31.940
eighteen sixty census during slavery
01:13:31.940 --> 01:13:34.060
at eighteen fifty census
01:13:34.060 --> 01:13:36.870
we couldn't find him which is typical
01:13:36.870 --> 01:13:39.850
that's call basically hitting the brick wall
01:13:39.850 --> 01:13:42.910
at that point you can pretty much assume that if you don't
01:13:42.910 --> 01:13:48.440
find your family that they were enslaved during that time period
01:13:48.440 --> 01:13:52.010
once we did that we want to check the slave schedule to see
01:13:52.010 --> 01:13:54.550
if we can find slave owners
01:13:54.550 --> 01:13:58.730
with that same last name written in Lawrence county
01:13:58.730 --> 01:14:01.880
from the eighteen sixties sensors we fell
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:04.670
fourteen former slave owners
01:14:04.670 --> 01:14:08.330
including James and Franklin who were living close by to
01:14:08.330 --> 01:14:11.010
the family in eighteen eighty
01:14:11.010 --> 01:14:12.940
and then on the eighteen fifty cents
01:14:12.940 --> 01:14:15.920
and we found a lot of info of slave owners
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:20.680
living in that Kelly James in Franklin again
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:23.410
also slave owners and when we look
01:14:23.410 --> 01:14:26.740
further into the slave schedule with James Franklin
01:14:26.740 --> 01:14:32.740
they are a male that match the age of your great grandfather
01:14:32.740 --> 01:14:35.190
so what we would like you to do we need to then look
01:14:35.190 --> 01:14:39.500
further into their property records their tax list
01:14:39.500 --> 01:14:43.250
at and see what we can access you can actually find them
01:14:43.250 --> 01:14:46.600
on those records we want to look at the freedmen's bureau
01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:51.070
for R. Lawrence county and we know that there is our records
01:14:51.070 --> 01:14:53.660
from Lawrenceville in Lawrence county
01:14:53.660 --> 01:14:55.080
we also want to look at the
01:14:55.080 --> 01:14:57.300
published family histories
01:14:57.300 --> 01:15:00.910
of the full of family we saw that they actually came from Randolph
01:15:00.910 --> 01:15:04.910
County North Carolina into Lawrence county
01:15:04.910 --> 01:15:08.340
they were there by the mid seventeen hundreds
01:15:08.340 --> 01:15:11.020
and the family settled and continued to grow
01:15:11.020 --> 01:15:14.100
so there's a lot more document documentation
01:15:14.100 --> 01:15:16.690
and other records that you can send or
01:15:16.690 --> 01:15:19.880
and hopefully you'll find.
01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:25.200
Just quickly add to that your question ring there is
01:15:25.200 --> 01:15:27.380
an issue that comes up frequently
01:15:27.380 --> 01:15:30.300
in genealogy research and that is our
01:15:30.300 --> 01:15:34.040
conflating the bursting with the date of the actual document
01:15:34.040 --> 01:15:35.360
that you're looking at I'm
01:15:35.360 --> 01:15:38.550
so if you found an ancestor on a document
01:15:38.550 --> 01:15:41.020
that's from eighteen seventy or eighty
01:15:41.020 --> 01:15:43.890
eighty minute list their birth year
01:15:43.890 --> 01:15:46.060
it's in the especially if you have been doing this
01:15:46.060 --> 01:15:47.790
for a while to complete
01:15:47.790 --> 01:15:50.590
the last two years in local news
01:15:50.590 --> 01:15:54.600
but formally implants and that there's absolutely do get counted
01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:56.840
in records after eighteen seventy
01:15:56.840 --> 01:15:59.210
you heard us talk about this with Adrian
01:15:59.210 --> 01:16:01.670
in our chat with her earlier on
01:16:01.670 --> 01:16:04.510
but when you're doing this type of research is important
01:16:04.510 --> 01:16:06.650
to keep that in mind that
01:16:06.650 --> 01:16:08.570
the birth here though it may be
01:16:08.570 --> 01:16:11.160
deep into that any better era
01:16:11.160 --> 01:16:14.930
doesn't necessarily mean that that person did not survive
01:16:14.930 --> 01:16:16.880
past misfortune to be documented
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:21.160
so I wasn't going to keep in mind if you start.
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:26.000
Great thank you for that detailed answer he
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:29.150
got a session right there.
01:16:29.400 --> 01:16:33.900
The next question is for Leah Jones our friends
01:16:33.900 --> 01:16:36.300
for our photographer extraordinaire
01:16:36.300 --> 01:16:38.300
so fabulous thank you so much
01:16:38.300 --> 01:16:41.270
for the wonderful energy interview did with miss Deborah may
01:16:41.270 --> 01:16:46.910
said and her husband until who's the muralist out of Baltimore
01:16:46.910 --> 01:16:48.360
I had a history of his life
01:16:48.360 --> 01:16:50.410
and legacy is just incredible
01:16:50.410 --> 01:16:53.040
but you have an update about the mural
01:16:53.040 --> 01:16:59.920
and some new pennies that appeared on the euro.
01:17:00.440 --> 01:17:03.520
Yes I just spoke said miss Deborah Mason
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:06.270
and she sent them to photograph
01:17:06.270 --> 01:17:10.330
in the third rendition of the mural has been completed
01:17:10.330 --> 01:17:16.290
and one of Mr Mason's one of his mentees helped
01:17:16.290 --> 01:17:18.190
with the mayor his name was Ernie Shaw
01:17:18.190 --> 01:17:22.560
so that's good news.
01:17:23.060 --> 01:17:26.900
That was gorgeous I really enjoy that
01:17:26.900 --> 01:17:28.980
I'm gonna hopefully everyone else enjoy that
01:17:28.980 --> 01:17:34.130
too very beautiful way of revisiting that mural
01:17:34.130 --> 01:17:35.800
I have another question
01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:39.130
for I know and for Candace our media
01:17:39.130 --> 01:17:42.260
conservation team members
01:17:42.260 --> 01:17:45.130
there's a question from someone asking what's the best way
01:17:45.130 --> 01:17:46.960
to preserve media items
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:49.810
like the H. D. H. S. hates lies
01:17:49.810 --> 01:17:53.510
and where do you store all this material.
01:17:54.950 --> 01:18:00.000
Well well I think I will run with most of the items that we're
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:04.840
talking about today that cheating the
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:08.580
the video tapes and films
01:18:08.580 --> 01:18:13.810
of whatever their format in a cool dry place
01:18:13.810 --> 01:18:18.750
out of dampness with with kind of steady humidity
01:18:18.750 --> 01:18:22.140
and and not but not.
01:18:22.230 --> 01:18:28.780
And you take your lead to be able to keep the tapes
01:18:29.370 --> 01:18:33.730
from being otherwise your race or accidentally
01:18:33.730 --> 01:18:37.000
having the content taken
01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:39.070
take it away are erased basically
01:18:39.070 --> 01:18:44.870
so I think that Candace can give us some examples of
01:18:44.870 --> 01:18:50.560
the way that you can assure that your tapes won't get
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:54.100
erased by accident.
01:18:57.030 --> 01:19:00.280
Kansas right.
01:19:03.530 --> 01:19:09.020
Can we say yeah we can set your view to the.
01:19:10.470 --> 01:19:14.870
Sorry this black square
01:19:14.870 --> 01:19:18.010
usually up on the edges of the tapes
01:19:18.010 --> 01:19:21.170
you're gonna want to either
01:19:21.170 --> 01:19:24.290
sometimes you pull it out
01:19:24.290 --> 01:19:26.290
and that'll come off like
01:19:26.290 --> 01:19:28.740
so.
01:19:29.060 --> 01:19:33.530
Or you punch it in it just depends on the type the tape
01:19:33.530 --> 01:19:38.900
smaller VHS tapes this is the VHS senior
01:19:38.900 --> 01:19:42.010
it usually have a record tab
01:19:42.010 --> 01:19:44.860
so here's the front on the top
01:19:44.860 --> 01:19:47.990
and there's usually writing
01:19:47.990 --> 01:19:50.010
so this one is actually on on
01:19:50.010 --> 01:19:53.110
and I'm going to switch it off
01:19:53.110 --> 01:19:57.440
and that ensures that if you put it in the machine or if you
01:19:57.440 --> 01:20:02.010
saw the camera that thank you won't accidentally taped
01:20:02.010 --> 01:20:07.470
over it as you try to get the contents off.
01:20:07.480 --> 01:20:10.680
There is I think the other part of your question was what
01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:13.630
you know you can digitize the stuff on home
01:20:13.630 --> 01:20:17.050
at home really you need a laptop
01:20:17.050 --> 01:20:20.060
and what's called an analog to digital converter
01:20:20.060 --> 01:20:24.500
just search on and you need the player
01:20:24.500 --> 01:20:28.410
so you need the V. C. R.
01:20:28.410 --> 01:20:31.030
or sure tapes like this if you
01:20:31.030 --> 01:20:35.460
still have the camera you can't connect the
01:20:35.460 --> 01:20:39.640
wires on the camera to the converter to your laptop
01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:43.530
and digitize it and it's a it's real time
01:20:43.530 --> 01:20:47.150
so she tapes for hours you you might have to sit there
01:20:47.150 --> 01:20:50.300
for four hours.
01:20:51.670 --> 01:20:56.700
One of I will add that if you
01:20:56.700 --> 01:20:59.330
have gone to a maybe a commercial facility
01:20:59.330 --> 01:21:05.110
and had your super eight films transferred or your VHS
01:21:05.110 --> 01:21:09.390
to hold on to them and so that if you have
01:21:09.390 --> 01:21:15.200
the opportunity to do another transfer that you
01:21:15.200 --> 01:21:16.690
you still have your cakes
01:21:16.690 --> 01:21:19.440
coated dough doctor them away
01:21:19.440 --> 01:21:22.650
hold on to that content.
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:28.390
Thank you I. did Candice just hold on to your material
01:21:28.390 --> 01:21:31.220
here's a good question that I really liked
01:21:31.220 --> 01:21:32.860
and I think it came across in the
01:21:32.860 --> 01:21:37.270
first video our communications video where the one brought
01:21:37.270 --> 01:21:40.440
in her recipes and some of the things you might not being
01:21:40.440 --> 01:21:42.330
to preserve the question is
01:21:42.330 --> 01:21:45.640
what are some of the things that people tend to overlook
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:48.180
in preserving our precious legacies
01:21:48.180 --> 01:21:51.210
and Leah I'll start.
01:21:53.590 --> 01:21:56.450
I would say the one thing that people need to do is just
01:21:56.450 --> 01:21:58.790
to make sure that the items are safe
01:21:58.790 --> 01:22:01.360
they're not cool dry temperate place
01:22:01.360 --> 01:22:03.620
and then another thing you want to do is when you have a materials
01:22:03.620 --> 01:22:05.490
like photographs or documents
01:22:05.490 --> 01:22:07.930
if you know who the people are in the bottles make sure
01:22:07.930 --> 01:22:09.590
the right good names down
01:22:09.590 --> 01:22:12.070
right down the locations that they're in there those are some
01:22:12.070 --> 01:22:13.730
of the important things not just having the photo
01:22:13.730 --> 01:22:18.280
but knowing who's in it in the context around.
01:22:19.570 --> 01:22:21.120
Great thank you so much
01:22:21.120 --> 01:22:23.150
what are some other things that people don't really think
01:22:23.150 --> 01:22:25.940
to preserve.
01:22:26.110 --> 01:22:29.180
Family history center team.
01:22:30.890 --> 01:22:35.990
We always recommend that people interview their families
01:22:35.990 --> 01:22:39.560
and try to get as much oral history from
01:22:39.560 --> 01:22:41.620
family members as you can
01:22:41.620 --> 01:22:43.880
while they're still with us
01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:46.460
so that you'll remember them write them down
01:22:46.460 --> 01:22:49.660
and record them and then you'll be able to pass those things
01:22:49.660 --> 01:22:53.400
on to the next generation that's a really crucial part of doing
01:22:53.400 --> 01:22:56.470
family history research is talking to
01:22:56.470 --> 01:22:59.750
the elders in your family.
01:23:01.750 --> 01:23:05.530
Okay other ideas.
01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:10.990
I think generally that people may not always think about conserving
01:23:10.990 --> 01:23:13.110
their AB materials are looking to that
01:23:13.110 --> 01:23:17.140
as well a source of family history
01:23:17.140 --> 01:23:23.430
audio tapes so do consider them in the same way okay
01:23:23.430 --> 01:23:25.850
you know sometimes you may not have the machine
01:23:25.850 --> 01:23:27.980
necessarily to play them
01:23:27.980 --> 01:23:30.510
but try to think of them
01:23:30.510 --> 01:23:36.280
as as also a source of where some of your
01:23:36.280 --> 01:23:39.600
history can happen where it had
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:43.250
where it would have been reported.
01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:45.940
Right thank you for that
01:23:45.940 --> 01:23:49.330
we have time for maybe one or two more questions
01:23:49.330 --> 01:23:54.570
and turning to our digital content producer Maya by Rodin
01:23:54.570 --> 01:23:57.840
who's been staffing the Jack this whole time
01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:00.550
and I'm hoping a couple of really good questions came in
01:24:00.550 --> 01:24:03.690
through the Jack hi yes thanks
01:24:03.690 --> 01:24:05.790
so much for everyone to everyone
01:24:05.790 --> 01:24:08.460
for participating in the chat it's been really great
01:24:08.460 --> 01:24:10.200
to see some of the questions coming
01:24:10.200 --> 01:24:12.860
we have two questions I think will be really great to hopefully
01:24:12.860 --> 01:24:14.650
have some time to get to both
01:24:14.650 --> 01:24:16.730
there's one question from J. L.
01:24:16.730 --> 01:24:19.770
for the family history center team
01:24:19.770 --> 01:24:22.580
they noticed that Adrian had a lot of success
01:24:22.580 --> 01:24:24.830
while the while she was doing her research
01:24:24.830 --> 01:24:27.480
but they're wondering if they're sick if you have suggestions
01:24:27.480 --> 01:24:30.340
for people who can't find information
01:24:30.340 --> 01:24:33.090
and via search engines where would date
01:24:33.090 --> 01:24:37.170
someone that that did you start.
01:24:41.150 --> 01:24:45.990
Thanks to our looking are having log online
01:24:45.990 --> 01:24:48.070
yes despite marking the band members
01:24:48.070 --> 01:24:51.250
are but can also get off of the internet
01:24:51.250 --> 01:24:53.640
and do some in person research
01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:55.960
look into some of the struggles assignees
01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:58.580
or genealogies bodies that exist
01:24:58.580 --> 01:25:03.370
ambience from take a page out of agents booking
01:25:03.370 --> 01:25:05.910
it was very there are or church
01:25:05.910 --> 01:25:09.440
there are sorts of location that
01:25:09.440 --> 01:25:11.370
have information on communities
01:25:11.370 --> 01:25:13.400
and families that you might not think of
01:25:13.400 --> 01:25:16.270
so check those out.
01:25:18.670 --> 01:25:22.520
And we also have a question
01:25:22.520 --> 01:25:27.610
from Evelyn about digitizing DVDs I
01:25:27.610 --> 01:25:32.000
may I media help conservation team do you have any tips
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:35.640
for someone looking to do that.
01:25:37.010 --> 01:25:42.550
I'll say it depends on whether it's a D. V. D. that was made
01:25:42.550 --> 01:25:47.610
to put in a DVD player or if they just use the DVD is a storage
01:25:47.610 --> 01:25:53.840
medium the first step to really just be put it in a
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:59.810
mac a laptop and see what plays to the menu come up
01:25:59.810 --> 01:26:03.240
that makes it harder but if instead of a menu just
01:26:03.240 --> 01:26:05.220
like that I opened it opens
01:26:05.220 --> 01:26:07.660
you can just drag those files out
01:26:07.660 --> 01:26:12.600
and put them on to another storage medium
01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:16.140
if it is kind of like a rendered CD there's
01:26:16.140 --> 01:26:20.310
tool we can use one is called handbrake
01:26:20.310 --> 01:26:25.900
it's a free software that can copy DVDs
01:26:25.900 --> 01:26:30.710
please don't use that for ninth collision
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just this number but but
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it is it's free I think it's
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for windows and mac that would be the simplest
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simplest way.
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Great thank you so much do you have any works
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I need to do you have any.
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No I agree we don't don't
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use that for commercial Arctis.
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And discovery fragile so if you can get that that contract
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off of the DVDs property
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something that you should try to do sooner or later.
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Right okay I think we have time
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for one more question and there are a couple of questions that
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kind of touch on the same topic
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so I'll just look them all together
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thank you god once again
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for contributing question
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we have a working from Kelly
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and corn the green I better kind of related about gather
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tool that you recommend
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for gathering I'm clammy history
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and safe in terms apply walking interview
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and are they yes conducting interviews
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and kind of starting those conversations
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when it comes to you are
01:27:55.340 --> 01:27:58.790
gathering information about your.
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There are some links below that we've
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provided hello the chat with helpful resources
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for questions you can ask family members
01:28:15.710 --> 01:28:19.930
to gather oral histories you can use honestly to
01:28:19.930 --> 01:28:22.400
record an oral history can use your phone
01:28:22.400 --> 01:28:25.160
there are a lot of apps that you can use I think voice recorder
01:28:25.160 --> 01:28:26.310
is one that I had for a
01:28:26.310 --> 01:28:31.220
while three and it can hold a fair amount of
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information and tell you can put on your computer.
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Oh sorry you.
01:28:46.790 --> 01:28:48.920
I just want to piggyback off of me
01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:50.300
a lot of people ask that question
01:28:50.300 --> 01:28:52.450
and they just don't realize how important
01:28:52.450 --> 01:28:55.510
your cell phone can be it is mighty
01:28:55.510 --> 01:28:57.700
if you don't have anything else just pull it out
01:28:57.700 --> 01:28:59.670
and ask any questions I
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sat and talked with my great grandmother
01:29:02.050 --> 01:29:04.900
two summers ago a hand are we
01:29:04.900 --> 01:29:06.650
excuse me she died two summers ago
01:29:06.650 --> 01:29:10.430
but three summers prior I just recorded her
01:29:10.430 --> 01:29:13.550
use of myself on because that's all I had she started talking
01:29:13.550 --> 01:29:15.450
and I'm like okay I'm going to get this number professional
01:29:15.450 --> 01:29:16.890
talking from one of these big camera
01:29:16.890 --> 01:29:19.310
but sometimes you just have to use what you have
01:29:19.310 --> 01:29:21.750
so it's important to don't think you have to have
01:29:21.750 --> 01:29:24.880
like a studio equipment set up to record somebody just pull
01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:26.990
out your phone it's important to have something rather
01:29:26.990 --> 01:29:29.390
than nothing.
01:29:32.990 --> 01:29:37.240
And when you keep in mind
01:29:37.240 --> 01:29:40.100
you know that it's a larger
01:29:40.100 --> 01:29:44.220
conversation but you also need to preserve that material
01:29:44.220 --> 01:29:49.670
so make sure that you back it up download it admit
01:29:49.670 --> 01:29:53.810
it and different different locations even if
01:29:53.810 --> 01:29:56.080
it's different drives you know don't
01:29:56.080 --> 01:29:59.160
just let it sit on your phone
01:29:59.160 --> 01:30:06.040
and possibly vanish when your phone falls or some other
01:30:06.040 --> 01:30:10.060
issue occurs like that so
01:30:10.060 --> 01:30:12.800
I'll think about how you're keeping the material that you're
01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:16.980
gathering you know today.
01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:23.680
Well thank you always come to the end of our program we just
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hope you enjoyed this program
01:30:26.870 --> 01:30:29.700
and make sure that our panelists are were
01:30:29.700 --> 01:30:33.290
Smith fun team has been able to provide
01:30:33.290 --> 01:30:37.740
as well as going through going on this journey with our families
01:30:37.740 --> 01:30:39.370
that we were working with the Stevie
01:30:39.370 --> 01:30:41.910
the last few years it's been really exciting with the
01:30:41.910 --> 01:30:44.370
last three four years to do this work
01:30:44.370 --> 01:30:47.080
please take a moment to visit the
01:30:47.080 --> 01:30:53.050
museum's website in at W. W. W. dot in M. A. H. C.
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dot S. I'd die Edie you
01:30:55.360 --> 01:30:56.850
the visit mark to visit
01:30:56.850 --> 01:30:59.800
and find more information about this messenger
01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:03.290
are we also have programs later on in the
01:31:03.290 --> 01:31:06.400
D. actually beginning of the year in January
01:31:06.400 --> 01:31:10.180
and February about the other components of our of our century
01:31:10.180 --> 01:31:12.710
including artificial curation program
01:31:12.710 --> 01:31:15.670
and our internship and fellowship programs
01:31:15.670 --> 01:31:17.470
so we will be excited to bring that
01:31:17.470 --> 01:31:20.650
information to you as well
01:31:20.650 --> 01:31:24.740
we hope and we hope you are encouraged to continue
01:31:24.740 --> 01:31:29.550
to interact with your family cap cities or histories
01:31:29.550 --> 01:31:31.950
and preserve your memories
01:31:31.950 --> 01:31:34.530
and enjoying this season
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thank you so much have a great evening
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